American Outdoor Brands (NASDAQ:AOUT) reported fourth-quarter financial results on Thursday. The transcript from the company's fourth-quarter earnings call has been provided below.

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Summary

American Outdoor Brands Inc. reported fiscal 2026 net sales of $190.5 million, a 14.3% decline year-over-year, mainly due to a $10 million acceleration of orders into fiscal 2025 by retailers.

Despite sales decline, the company achieved a 4% POS growth and innovation-driven new products accounted for 29% of net sales, with 54% of sales from patented products.

The company plans to grow fiscal 2027 net sales by 7.5% and expects adjusted EBITDA to increase over 40%, leveraging innovation and stable demand.

Operational highlights include a strong balance sheet with $21.4 million in cash and no debt, and a strategic focus on connected ecosystems and innovative product development.

Management highlighted the planned divestiture of an underperforming brand, efforts to optimize the brand portfolio, and a disciplined approach to cost control and resource allocation.

Full Transcript

OPERATOR

Good day everyone and welcome to the American Outdoor Brands Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. This call is being recorded at this time. I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Liz Sharp, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Liz Sharp, Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you and good afternoon. Our comments today may contain predictions, estimates, and other forward-looking statements. Our use of words like anticipate, project, estimate, expect, intend, should, could indicate, suggest, believe, and other similar expressions is intended to identify those forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements also include statements regarding our product development focus, objectives, strategies and vision, our strategic evolution, our market share and market demand for our products, market and inventory conditions related to our products and our industry in general, and growth opportunities and trends.

Our forward-looking statements represent our current judgment about the future and they are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Risk factors and other considerations that could cause our actual results to be materially different are described in our securities filings. You can find those documents as well as a replay of this call on our website at aob.com. Today's call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of this time and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.

Our actual results could differ materially from our statements today. A few important items to note about our comments on today's call: first, we reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Our non-GAAP results exclude amortization of acquired intangible assets, stock compensation, emerging growth, transition costs, non-recurring inventory reserve adjustments, impairment of assets held for sale, other costs, and income tax adjustments. The reconciliation of GAAP financial measures to non-GAAP financial measures, whether they are discussed on today's call, can be found in our filings as well as today's earnings press release which are posted on our website. Also, when we reference EPS, we are always referencing fully diluted EPS. Joining us on today's call is Brian Murphy, President and CEO, and Andy Fulmer, CFO. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Brian.

Brian D. Murphy, President And CEO Director

Thanks Liz and thanks everyone for joining us today. I'm very proud of what our team accomplished during fiscal 2026. In a year shaped by tariff uncertainty, uneven retailer ordering patterns, and continued pressure across portions of the consumer marketplace, our team remained focused on innovation, execution, and serving our consumers and retail partners. As a result, we continue to strengthen our brands, expand distribution of our products, optimize our portfolio, and position the company for future growth in fiscal 2027 and beyond.

With that, let's take a look at the year. While our reported net sales declined during fiscal 2026, the underlying performance of our business was much stronger than the reported results suggest. A meaningful portion of the year-over-year decline was attributable to approximately $10 million in orders that retailers accelerated into the final two weeks of fiscal 2025. As we said at the time, that acceleration was not only a bid by retailers to get ahead of impending tariffs, but it was also a tremendous endorsement of our most popular and innovative brands.

Nevertheless, that acceleration created a tough comp for our fourth quarter and full year that we believe is masking excellent performance across our business. In fact, excluding that impact, net sales declined just 5% for the year, a solid result given the environment. We viewed the 5% decline as nominal and driven by two elements that were persistent throughout the year. The first is an inventory reset at our largest E-Comm retailer and the second is extended softness in the Aiming Solutions category within the personal protection market.

Despite those impacts, our key brands continue to perform. You'll recall that last quarter we defined these key growth brands as Bog, Bubba, Caldwell, Gorilla, and Meet Your Maker. On a combined basis and again adjusting for the acceleration, this group delivered positive year-over-year net sales growth as well as positive POS growth for fiscal 2026. This is a great result because what matters most is what happens when consumers encounter our brands at retail, and our POS results tell us that consumer demand for our products remained healthy.

Throughout fiscal 2026, we delivered POS growth of approximately 4%, representing our fourth consecutive quarter of positive year-over-year growth. POS growth in our outdoor lifestyle category increased by 7%, and in our shooting sports category, which tends to align more closely with NICS background check results, POS increased by 1%. Innovation remains one of the most important drivers of our business. New products represented approximately 29% of fiscal 2026 net sales, continuing a consistent track record of innovation across our portfolio.

Today we have more than 440 issued and pending patents, the largest number in our company's history, and the impact of those patents is profound. In fiscal 2026, products that are protected by one or more patents generated roughly 54% of our net sales for the year, compared to just 28% at our spinoff. That demonstrates the deep moat created by our intellectual property. Our patents help protect the market positions we have earned, defend future revenue streams, and create meaningful barriers to entry for competitors.

Just as importantly, they enable us to continue taking share by bringing differentiated products and technologies to market that competitors simply cannot replicate. While others are often focused on protecting the past, we remain focused on building the future. Behind our innovation engine is a talented team of designers, engineers, sourcing specialists, software developers, and category experts who continually mine the depths of our brand portfolio for new opportunities.

They identify where our brands have permission to play, develop multi-year innovation roadmaps, and create differentiated products and technologies that generate new revenue streams protected by intellectual property. Each innovation strengthens our competitive position, expands the reach of our brands, and further widens the moat around our business. More recently, for a number of our key growth brands, these efforts have expanded beyond individual products and into a new frontier for the outdoor industry: Connected Ecosystems.

These ecosystems combine innovative hardware, software, and digital engagement to create experiences that simply did not exist before. The result is deeper consumer engagement, differentiated offerings for retailers, and new opportunities to drive category growth, all of which are reflected in the strong POS performance we are seeing with our largest retail partners. A great example is Caldwell. During the year we expanded our Claycopter and Claymore lines for shotgun enthusiasts who numbered nearly 19 million in America with the Claymore Connect and the Claycopter Surface to Air, a revolutionary wireless ground launcher that integrates with our Caldwell Clays app and makes Caldwell the only brand that can connect to and simultaneously control up to 10 Claymore Connect or Claycopter Surface to Air launchers, allowing the combination of traditional Clays and Claycopter targets on a single course. Together, these products create a connected experience that brings new levels of engagement, competition, and excitement to shotgun enthusiasts while reinforcing Caldwell's leadership position in the category.

And we're taking that connected experience into the recreational fishing market as well, where nearly 58 million Americans participate. During the year, our Bubba Brand partnered with Major League Fishing to introduce Scoretracker Live, a transformative platform for competitive fishing professionals and everyday anglers that delivers real-time tournament management, scoring, spectating, and excitement via our Bubba app and smart fish scales. Our partnership with MLF is important because it significantly expands the visibility of our Bubba brand through one of the largest and most engaged audiences, the 30 million Americans who participate in bass fishing. It allows us to bring the excitement previously reserved for professional tournament fishing to everyday anglers. Whether competing in a local fishing league, on a college team, in a regional event, or simply among friends and family, anglers will now have access to the same experiences that have helped make professional tournament fishing so compelling. In a few weeks, we'll head to Florida for iCast, the world's largest sport fishing expo, where we'll join MLF to officially launch Score Tracker Live for consumers.

Lastly, as I think about innovation, I'm reminded that the most powerful innovations are often those that penetrate and shake up large, sleepy markets, changing consumer behavior and creating value long after their introduction. BOG is a great example. Several years ago, we introduced the Death Grip, a truly innovative shooting rest that solved the fundamental trade-off between portability and stability for hunters. And what made Death Grip successful was simple.

Once consumers discovered it, they recognized it as an authentic solution to a real challenge that drove adoption, strengthened the brand, and displaced competitors. What began as a single product evolved into a category-defining platform that helped establish BOG as a leader in hunting rests and made it indispensable for both consumers and retailers today. Although we don't often talk about BOG, it remains one of the most consistent top performers in our growth brand portfolio.

We see that same potential in the innovative platforms we're building with Bubba and Caldwell today. Beyond innovation, we continued to strengthen our company throughout fiscal 2026. We took steps to optimize our brand portfolio, including the planned divestiture of an underperforming brand. We remained disciplined in how we allocate resources across the business, and we successfully navigated a rapidly evolving tariff environment, enhancing the flexibility and responsiveness of our supply chain while preserving our rights to potential tariff refunds and maintaining continuity for our customers and consumers.

Andy will cover these topics in more detail during his remarks. As we enter fiscal 2027, we are mindful of the uncertainties that continue to affect the consumer marketplace. At the same time, we are encouraged by several trends we believe are important. First, consumer demand for our products remained favorable as reflected in our POS performance. Second, ordering patterns with our largest E-Comm retailer appeared to stabilize as fiscal 2026 progressed.

Third, retail inventory conditions and foot traffic patterns at several of our retailers were trending favorably as we exited fiscal 2026. And fourth, retailers continue to respond positively to our innovation pipeline, expanding distribution opportunities for our brands. Taken together, these factors reinforce our belief that our long-term model remains intact. We believe our brands are well positioned, our innovation pipeline is exceptionally strong, our operating model remains agile, and the foundation we have built over the past several years positions us well to return to growth in fiscal 2027.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Andy to review our financial results and outlook.

Andrew Fulmer, Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Brian. Fiscal 2026 was a year marked by disciplined execution and our continued focus on maintaining strong financial fundamentals despite the uncertainty of tariffs and macroeconomics that persisted across the landscape throughout the year. We managed the business with a balanced approach, carefully controlling costs while continuing to invest in innovation that supports our long-term strategy. We ended the year in a great position. Let me walk you through the details.

Net sales for fiscal 2026 were $190.5 million, a decrease of 14.3% compared to fiscal 2025. Brian outlined the acceleration by our retailers, so I won't walk through that in detail. Adjusting for that acceleration, the decline in net sales for fiscal 2026 was just 5.4%, a solid performance given the environment and largely in line with expectations we set in our second quarter. Because we believe this result is more reflective of our underlying performance for the year, I will reference it a few times throughout my remarks today.

Our outdoor lifestyle category, which consists of products relating to hunting, fishing, meat processing, outdoor cooking, and rugged outdoor activities, represented approximately 58% of fiscal 2026 net sales, up from 46% at our spinoff in fiscal 2020. This evolution reflects our focus on large, attractive outdoor recreation markets where innovation can drive consumer engagement, distribution expansion, and long-term growth. Our outdoor lifestyle net sales for the fiscal year decreased 13.1% compared to last year.

Adjusting for the acceleration, net sales in outdoor lifestyle decreased 1.6%. In our shooting sports category, which includes solutions for target shooting, aiming, safe storage, cleaning and maintenance, and personal protection, net sales for the year declined 15.9% compared to last year, driven mainly by a decrease in aiming solutions. Adjusting for the acceleration, shooting sports net sales declined by 10.4%. Turning to our distribution channels, our traditional channel net sales decreased by 13.5% in fiscal 2026.

Adjusting for the acceleration, traditional net sales actually increased by about 1%. Consistent with our comments throughout fiscal 2026, our largest E-commerce retailer continued to reset its inventory, which we believe was in response to tariffs. Accordingly, our E-commerce net sales decreased by 15.6% in fiscal 2026. That said, we were encouraged to see an improvement in that reset activity as the year progressed. Our domestic channel, which generated approximately 94% of our net sales in the year, decreased by 13.4%, while our international channel, which represented 6% of our annual net sales, decreased by 26.7% compared to last year, largely the result of US trade policy uncertainty. On a quarterly basis, net sales in Q4 decreased 24% compared to Q4 last year. Adjusting for the acceleration, net sales decreased $4.8 million, or 9.2% compared to Q4 last year, the decline driven almost entirely by the weakness in aiming solutions. Turning to Gross margin, fiscal 26 gross margins increased 10 basis points to 44.7%. The increase was due to the timing of pricing actions to offset higher tariff costs as well as a higher percentage of new product sales which typically generate higher gross margins.

Those increases were somewhat offset by sales of slower moving inventory, increased depreciation, and higher inbound freight and tariff costs. We're pleased with this result which is consistent with our long-term target for gross margins in the mid-40s. Now, speaking to the topic of tariffs, following the Supreme Court's February 2026 ruling that IIPA-based tariffs were unlawfully imposed, we have taken the steps to file for a refund of duties paid under those tariff orders.

In Q4 of fiscal 2026, we filed a refund claim related to IIPA tariffs in the amount of $15.2 million and we recorded a receivable for that refund in other current assets. Of that $15.2 million, we reduced our inventory carrying value by $10.8 million and the balance of the $4.4 million reduced our cost of goods sold to offset IIPA tariffs amortized in Q3 and Q4. Turning now to operating expenses for the full year, GAAP operating expenses totaled $94.2 million, a decrease of $5.2 million compared to fiscal 2025.

The decrease was driven by a reduction in intangible amortization, lower sales volume-related expenses, decreases in variable compensation and depreciation, and careful cost management that resulted in reduced costs across the business. These decreases were offset by increased public company costs as we emerged from EGC status and a $3.4 million non-cash impairment charge related to the divestiture of our UST brand which we discussed on our last call.

On a non-GAAP basis, operating expenses decreased $6.6 million in fiscal 2026 to $80.3 million. Non-GAAP operating expenses exclude the non-cash impairment, intangible amortization, stock compensation, and certain non-recurring expenses as they occur. I believe the OPEX result in fiscal 2026 reflects our disciplined approach to consistently avoiding unnecessary expenses. This philosophy helps us maintain a lean, agile, and asset-light model that can adapt to change without requiring abrupt cost cuts, especially in the uncertain macro environment we faced in fiscal 2026.

GAAP EPS for fiscal 26 was a loss of $0.73 compared to a loss of $0.01 in the prior year, while non-GAAP EPS in fiscal 2026 was a positive 28 cents compared to 76 cents in fiscal 2025. Our fiscal 26 figures are based on our fully diluted share count of approximately 12.9 million shares for fiscal 2027. We expect our fully diluted share count will be about 13.2 million shares outside of any share buybacks that may occur. Full year adjusted EBITDA in fiscal 2026 was $10.2 million compared to $17.7 million last year.

Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, we finished fiscal 2026 with a very strong balance sheet, ending the year with cash of $21.4 million and no debt after repurchasing approximately $5.1 million of our common stock. As we've discussed before, our business is seasonal, with the highest quarterly net sales typically occurring in Q2 and Q3. This pattern generally results in operating cash outflows in the first half of the fiscal year, followed by cash inflows in the second half as the receivables are collected and inventory levels decline.

This seasonal pattern played out as expected, and we generated $21.3 million in operating cash in the second half of the year. We ended the year with inventory of $91.9 million, a decrease of $9.4 million compared to the prior fiscal year-end. The decrease included a reduction in capitalized tariffs as well as the move of UST inventory to assets held for sale and a planned reduction in overall inventory levels. Turning to capital expenditures, we ended the year with capex of $2.5 million compared to $3.9 million last year.

For fiscal 2027, we expect to spend $3.5 million to $4 million on tooling and patent costs, consistent with our Asset Light operating model of capex. At less than 2% of net sales, our balance sheet remains strong and debt-free. We ended the year with no balance on our $75 million line of credit, so we entered fiscal 27 with a total available capital of over $110 million. Lastly, we continue to return capital to our shareholders through our share repurchase program.

During fiscal 2026, we repurchased roughly 551,000 shares of common stock at an average price of $9.24 per share, and at year-end, we still had roughly $8.1 million of availability remaining on our $10 million share repurchase program, which runs through September of this year. Now, turning to our outlook, in fiscal 2027, we plan to grow net sales and profitability by leveraging our greatest competitive advantage: Innovation. While the macroeconomic environment remains uncertain and external factors such as inflation, interest rates, geopolitical developments, and evolving consumer spending patterns may continue to fluctuate, we believe that periods of change often create the greatest opportunities for companies like ours that can innovate and adapt quickly. As we move through the year, we will continue to closely monitor economic and market developments, adapting where prudent as conditions evolve. Based upon the trends that we saw at the end of fiscal 2026 that Brian outlined, we expect net sales for fiscal 2027 in the range of $200 to $210 million, which at the midpoint would represent growth of 7.5% over fiscal 2026 reported net sales.

As we think about the flow of net sales over the year, we expect to see our typical seasonal pattern play out in fiscal 2027, with Q1 coming in as our lowest net sales quarter, Q2 and Q3 as our highest net sales quarters, and Q4 coming in with higher net sales than Q1. We expect Q1 net sales to be approximately 20% higher than reported net sales for Q1 of fiscal 2026. We estimate that approximately $6 million of the $10 million of accelerated orders into fiscal 2025 came from Q1 in fiscal 2026 and the remainder from Q2 and Q3 in fiscal 2026.

This implies we expect Q1 net sales in fiscal 2027 to be roughly flat to up slightly year over year on a normalized basis. Based on our net sales volume in Q1, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be slightly negative. Turning back to the full year, we expect gross margins for fiscal 2027 to be consistent with our long-term target range in the mid-40s. Turning to OPEX, we expect fiscal 2027 operating expenses to increase slightly due primarily to variable costs associated with higher net sales partially offset by lower intangible asset amortization.

We remain committed to disciplined expense management and will continue to align our cost structure with business activity while preserving flexibility to respond to changing market conditions. Lastly, based on all the factors I've discussed, we expect adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 2027 to be in the range of 6.5 to 7.5% of net sales at the midpoint. This would represent an increase in adjusted EBITDA of over 40% compared to fiscal 2026. This level of profitability is consistent with our long-term operating model which targets EBITDA contribution of 25 to 30% on net sales above $200 million.

We've demonstrated this level of performance in the past and as our brands continue to introduce innovative and competitive products, we remain confident in our ability to drive sustained profitability over time. One note on income taxes, we ended fiscal 2026 with net operating loss carryforwards of approximately $21 million. Therefore, because of this benefit, we expect a minimal amount of GAAP income tax in fiscal 2027. With that, operator, please open the call for questions from our analysts.

OPERATOR

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press Star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press Star then two. And our first question for today will come from Matt Karonda with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.

Matt Karonda, Analyst at Roth Capital

Hey guys. Good evening. Just want to make sure I understand the gross margin commentary for the quarter from the fourth quarter. Seems like there was a, I think a benefit from IIPA. I think Andy may have called out like $4.4 million from the IIPA tariffs. That was recognized as a contra COGS item in the fourth quarter. Can you just run us through that? And then are you building that into the margin outlook for fiscal 27 or is the margin outlook for 27 excluding benefit from future IIPA rebates?

Andrew Fulmer, Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Matt, you're correct. So the $4.4 million was recorded all in Q4 in COGS. That was really, if you remember, we disclosed a $1.7 million hit in Q3. So that $1.7 million really benefited Q4 as part of that $4.4 million. And then going forward, our guidance for fiscal 27 really has everything. All the tariffs that are effective as of today are baked into our guidance. So you have section 232 right now. Since February, we've had a section 122 that kind of replaced IEPA for a little while, and then TBD on what happens with Section 301 tariffs going forward.

Matt Karonda, Analyst at Roth Capital

Okay, all right, got it. But just making sure that I guess we're not building in future contra COGS items from any additional tariff rebates for fiscal 27. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. And then on, I guess, the sell-through commentary from Brian. Just curious how to foot the 1% sell-through overall. And I think you said 6% in outdoor lifestyle. It sounds like those are running positive and look good. But I guess the outlook suggests something like high single-digit growth for fiscal 27. So are we counting on some sell-in on new products? Is this just... We're factoring in a higher theoretical baseline from 26 because of the $10 million of orders that were pulled forward into 25.

I mean, just help us level set to make sure we understand the disconnect on sort of what the outlook implies versus sort of the sell-through that you're seeing right now.

Andrew Fulmer, Chief Financial Officer

Yep. Yeah, happy to. So the way that I think about it is you have to also consider the acceleration piece that Andy pointed out earlier in the script. So we have that acceleration, obviously, that came in Q4 of last year in FY25, which kind of set us up for some declines in the first quarter. And that $10 million was really split, right? Most of it hitting in Q1. I think we said like 60% or so now that we have that hindsight and the data to support it, with the rest of that occurring in Q2 largely, probably a little bit in Q3.

So when we look at the POS trends we saw in FY26, which were positive, I think net-net was like 4% over the course of the year. When you take into account the adjustment for the acceleration, which is candidly how we are assessing the health of our business internally, it's actually very consistent with those trends. So we don't see a shift towards higher growth. When you take into account that normalization, the trends are actually pretty consistent.

The headwind, you know, you might say, well, what's the delta then between the POS trends and what you're seeing on the sort of normalization side? It really comes down to the two factors that we discussed, which is aiming solutions softness, which we are seeing some improvement, and our largest e-commerce retailer, again seeing improvement there, especially coming out of the end of last fiscal year. So we're not seeing any trends right now on our dashboard that would lead us to believe that the increases that we're proposing here are unrealistic.

We actually are seeing quite a bit of support that those increases are going to be more likely than not.

Matt Karonda, Analyst at Roth Capital

Yeah. Okay, that helps kind of square it for us. Brian, thank you. Maybe back to Andy on the margin guidance. So if we were to bridge from the commentary that you made and then kind of using the midpoint of the EBITDA margin guide, there's like 170 basis points, I think, of EBITDA margin improvement embedded in the guidance. Sounded like you said gross margin relatively consistent in 27 versus 26, mid-40% range. So the bulk of the improvement in EBITDA margin should be coming from operating leverage.

Correct me if I'm wrong in that thinking, I guess. And then maybe just call out some of the items where you think you're getting some leverage on the operating side.

Andrew Fulmer, Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So I think your math is right. We're kind of targeting those long-term gross margins kind of in the mid-40s, so a bit of improvement from 26 to 27. And then overall, I mean, the EBITDA guide, we feel comfortable because it's right within our long-term EBITDA contribution model of the 25 to 30%. We've been there before when you look historically, so we're really comfortable with that. So as net sales grow, we are going to be leveraging those, the fixed costs that are kind of embedded in the OPEX number.

Matt Karonda, Analyst at Roth Capital

Okay, all right, understood. Maybe on the cash deployment side of things, could you talk about what you expect to collect at least seasonally on tariff rebates over the course of the next couple of quarters and then just maybe a little bit on deployment of that cash? Balance sheet's obviously in a great spot. How are we thinking about deployment there? I know you guys have been consistent on the buyback. It seems like that's sort of been the priority outside of organic investment in the business where your needs are relatively met in the near term.

So is that still the posture we have, or are there anything percolating on the M&A side that we should be thinking about in terms of cash deployment as you kind of bring on additional cash from the rebates?

Brian D. Murphy, President And CEO Director

Yeah. Hey Matt, it's Brian Olstar and then Andy, feel free to chime in. So the way that we're thinking about the refund is overall, the refund is really offsetting in many ways the residual tariff burden from the replacement tariffs. Right. Section 122, although it's temporary, section 232 on steel and aluminum, TBD on 301, if there are going to be additional changes there. So we don't view the tariff refund as a discrete windfall in any sort of way.

We really see it as a way to offset some of these other costs that have crept in throughout the year while also just being more disciplined on opex. So we can maintain that long-term model that Andy alluded to. And then look, if there we don't know the timing of when we're going to receive these things, I think most people expected it would take a while. In reality, we started getting some refunds sooner than we expected. So timing is unknown overall.

But let's just assume that they come sooner. Right. What would we do? First, we would look to offset any additional costs because that's a real factor. But then, you know, secondly, we already have a strong balance sheet. I think, you know, if you would have told me last year all the things that would occur in the macro environment and the tariffs and everything that we would be able to execute end the year with over $20 million of cash clean, you know, no debt.

I would have asked how you did it because I'm very pleased with how the team has responded to this. And taking a long-term view, what I'm trying to say is we've set ourselves up very, very well to outside of any tariff refund again because we're going to allocate that appropriately that we're in a tremendous position to be an acquirer of choice and have to give a shout out to Tyler Lindwald who recently joined our team. I'm sure you know Tyler, Matt, but just brings incredible analytical horsepower, relationships and frankly a pipeline that is additive to the work that we were already doing.

And although he's been here for a short time, the work with the team has really accelerated our efforts and made us more impactful in pursuing acquisition targets, especially those that are not quote unquote for sale. So going to be aggressive on that front and you know, we'll see where the refunds shake out relative to other capital allocation priorities.

Matt Karonda, Analyst at Roth Capital

Very comprehensive. I'll turn it over. Thank you.

OPERATOR

Thanks guys. Thanks. The next question will come from Mark Smith with Lake Street Capital. Please go ahead.

Mark Smith, Analyst at Lake Street Capital

Hey guys, long stay on M&A here for a second and just kind of how you're thinking about that with the addition of Tyler versus organic growth. You know, R&D, we haven't seen much uptick in spending there, but you guys have been driving strong new product sales. Just kind of curious how you weight growth from each of those segments.

Brian D. Murphy, President And CEO Director

Sure. Hey Mark, I can go first. This is Brian. It's funny how we get over the course of the years. People wonder why we aren't spending more on R&D and I think that's a, it's a real testament to how vertically integrated this team is when it comes to developing new products. So in a prior life, before the spin, we did outsource certain elements of that which led to a higher cost in our efforts to be more nimble, agile, come to market more quickly, be more disruptive.

We decided to rely more on internal resources and what that's allowed us to do is to spend less but get a much higher return on that investment. So I think we're well positioned there with our spend and the talent that we have today. When it comes to kind of alluded to buy versus build is when Tyler first came here in the last month or so, last two months, the first thing we did as a team was sit down and this includes the entire executive team and getting him up to speed on our philosophy.

Because at the end of the day, innovation is probably getting tired of us talking about it. But that is what we do, that's who we are, and that leads everything. Right? So even when we look at acquisitions, we look at it through the lens of innovation. Is there a brand here that has a highly enthusiastic base of consumers that we can tap into? Do they have a strong brand? And ultimately, does this become a vessel for us to now insert some of our new innovation?

We've got tons of new products that we've created and ideas that we believe we don't have the right brand today. And ultimately that helps give Tyler and our team a roadmap for these are the brands that we believe are going to be the most strategic for us. I think a lot of companies can fall into the trap. Certainly I've been at companies like this where you become more reactive, right. And it's opportunistic. Can we buy this company for, you know, a low multiple carve out costs and get multiple arbitrage or sales synergies?

All that's great. And that absolutely factors into how we look at acquisitions. But it really comes down to how is this going to help us overall and the company and our employees and most importantly our shareholders truly harness the power of this sustainable competitive advantage of ours. And so that's really what he's tasked with right now, is cultivating that pipeline that will allow us to do that. While also, you know, there is an element of being opportunistic while also assessing acquisitions that are being brought to market, which there are more, more of them are coming to market, but then seeing what is the strategic angle here for us so we can continue to leverage this.

OPERATOR

And that will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to our CEO Brian Murphy for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Brian D. Murphy, President And CEO Director

Thank you, operator. In closing, I want to sincerely thank our employees for their dedication and their commitment throughout fiscal 2026. Truly, truly, truly, thank you for sticking with us. Taking a long-term perspective. We just, we've built a tremendous culture here and you are absolutely a big part of that. In addition, your passion for innovation and focus on execution continue to strengthen our company and ultimately advance our long-term vision.

I also want to thank our shareholders, our customers and our business partners for their continued support. We look forward to updating you on our progress throughout fiscal 2027. Thank you.

OPERATOR

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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